Why the UPA Should Go

Sandeep wants the knickerwallahs to come to power again to that further thier agenda of divisive politics.

sandeep:

Is there any sense in letting these guys complete their term?

short of an election what exactly are you proposing here?

How are the Nepal and SL situations different from or worse than when the UPA's predecessors were in power? It wasn't the UPA that made us endure the nauseating spectacle of the country's foreign minister having to escort terrorists to Kandahar (which terrorists later cropped up in the Danil Pearl murder and god knows what else); it wasn't the UPA that embraced Nawaz Sharif and slept while Kargil happened, was it?

Does the UPA suck in many ways? I am sure it does. But let's not pretend that all the issues cited here originate with the UPA.

And btw, minorities having "first claim" on the fruits of development is something one can agree or disagree with, but it does not "compromise India's sovereignty", it actually has no bearing on India's sovereignty. Singh was proposing a form of affirmative action that might or might not be a bad idea -- but if that compromises sovereignty I suppose your point is that the USA has been compromising its sovereignty for forty years now with affirmative action and the like?

The two are different issues as I see it, and it's not constructive to blur the distinction.

Not to mention that the first US-India joint exercises were conducted when the NDA was in power; at the time those of us who complained about loss of national sovereignty were told to shut up and get with the times (NAM was dead, US the only power, etc.)...now, when the UPA does the same thing, they are traitors. All I can say is: LOL

The fact of the matter, is, on Nepal, SL, the US, the Congress and the BJP have pretty consistent policies in the post-1991 era. And on the economy too. Heck likely even on reservations, since the NDA did not take a single step to roll back anything, and every year (like every other government) kept adding to the roster of "backward" communities. The difference is only the choice of constituency (Muslims in this case, Kurmis, Gujjars and whoever in that one). The principle is the same.

And finally, what is the factual basis for the claim that kids at the majority of Indian madrassas are taught to "kill kafirs"? What a sweeping generalization!

i like ur article very much the upa people should be sent out of india as they r working against the spirit of bharat

Null,

Atleast the Knickerwallahs were out dividing the nation into only two parts. But the UPA seems to hell bent on dividing the nation into many fragments!

Sandeep,

You did it!

Now, some Muslims and Bleeding Heart Liberals are going to accuse you of being an RSS mouthpiece and a Hindutvawadi. I dont know why a criticism of the UPA has to be construed as support for the NDA or RSS or VHP or BD. This mentality is hard to understand. You take some criticism, recycle it and throw it back at where it came from. It's very convenient actually.

Dont worry, there's a saying:

The best way to convince a fool he's wrong is to let him have his way!

Every citizen irrespective of caste, race and religion has sovereignty over the country's resources. I'm sure the judiciary is watching. I hope, sooner than later, they ask our PM to have a look the Constitution and ask him to shut up!

After the Delhi Sultanate, the Moghul rule and the British, the Hindus are once again faced with the prospect of being second class citizens in their home country. Wonderful. So this is how you treat a people who have been conquered, mass slaughtered, raped, humilitated and subjugated for over a millenium, mostly by the coreligionists of those for whom the PM suggests must have the first claim on resources.

And over the border in Pakistan, the people seem to have LOTS OF GOOD SENSE and are progressing by modernising their education. Good on you Pakis!

This guy Atlantean is praying for the IAS
God help the country if bigoted people like him gets into the IAS.

Excellent points Sandeep. Ignore the critics. They are either anti-national muslims or leftists.

Guys,
Hindus are spinless whiners thats all..
We hardly unite on any issues.. and BJP which supposedly advocates Hindu causes is a royal mess.

Unlike Christian conservatives in US for example who unite on so many issues.. Hindus are worthless suckers...

they generally get what they deserve..
another partition of India is well on its way..
Get those immigrant visas out of the country soon..

@null,
>>Sandeep wants the knickerwallahs to come to power again to that further thier agenda of divisive politics.
You had to say that, didn't you? On that note, can I ask if you ever know the meaning of "debate?"

@temporal,
>>short of an election what exactly are you
proposing here?
If you read my post carefully, my intent is pretty clear: I don't intend to "propose" anything. It's just my angst against these jokers.

@qalandar,
>>How are the Nepal and SL situations different from or worse than when the UPA's predecessors were in power?
Why is it mandatory for you to drag what other regimes did? Why do you find it so hard to focus on the realities of what the UPA has done, and is doing to endanger India as I've explained in my post? What compels you to bring in the NDA's failures? Where have I in my article, ever held the NDA as a paragon of success/perfection? Why're you unable to point flaws--if any--in my argument/reasoning or topic on hand without resorting to the us vs them line?

>>And finally, what is the factual basis for the claim that kids at the majority of Indian madrassas are taught to "kill kafirs"?
Go ask that reporter who reported this news? He/she would be careful enough before reporting it as news, right?

Null,

I challenge you to substantiate your claim that I'm a bigoted person with evidence.

I said:

Every citizen irrespective of caste, race and religion has sovereignty over the country's resources.

Is that bigotry? On the contrary, I only think if God is there, it'll be on my side if I pray and work for equality and equal treatment of all human beings - irrespective of religion, caste or race. And I take pride in the fact that I do.

And by the way, please dont connect my professional aspirations with my personal, independant opinions. It's not a nice thing to do. Moreover, members of the IAS, if you are not aware, are expected to do what the government asks them to do. Their duty and objectives are not decided by personal opinion. Hope that rests your false fears.

And please... reply only if you're ready for a debate of sorts. Making baseless accusations that others are bigots doesnt somehow establish your secular credentials or increase your "dudeness" rating here.

Re: "Go ask that reporter who reported this news? He/she would be careful enough before reporting it as news, right?"

Guess you're right -- after all, media distortions, exaggerations, bias or sensationalism are all unheard of.

How many reporters in North India for instance understand Urdu and arabic ,the languages most important in Madrassas ?
Do they really know what is really taught there ?
Except for ignorance and prejudice inspired by the knickerwallahs and vague "intelligence agencies" they have nothing else.
Most madrassas focus on injunctions from the revelation,interpretation of Fiqh etc..
Most madrassas shape and interpret their behavior in ways that arguably bear no reference to the hegemonic nation-state-oriented ideologies that surround us today.They have no interest in 'materialist progress' issues.

Your article is quite right. Giving any priority of nations resources to religious based groups will enflame serious communalism the likes you have not seen since Hitler. UPA has sold India's soul to usa and to muslims. Both will cost dearly in times to come. Whole world is in trouble simply because of intolerant, fanatic muslim religion which not only prohibits muslims from accepting other religions but to anhilate them. Pandering to it, neither usa, nor Europe have found any lasting peace. Only solution is world war.

The question is that do they have really hard data on what is really taught in madrassas ?
Yes madrassas are not employment oriented because thier focus is not on preparing students for (high paying) jobs in general.

@qalandar
>>Guess you're right -- after all, media distortions, exaggerations, bias or sensationalism are all unheard of.
Unless you're unaware, this distortion etc works on both sides, mostly against the Hindus.

@null
>>Yes madrassas are not employment oriented because thier focus is not on preparing students for (high paying) jobs in general.
So, what is the focus on then?

Politically Correct vz. Logically Correct
Well Done Sandeep.
9 out of 10 decisions of UPA are getting challenged in Supreme Court. But they do not care. They are just trying to take Politically Correct decisions and not Logically Correct decision.
There is no doubt that Communists are anti-Indian Party and now they are forcing Congress to go there way. The outcome we see is anti Indian but Politically correct decisions taken by UPA.
More damage coming our way soon...
The need of the hour is
Fight For Right and Not for Begging
Fight for Job and Not for Reservation
bcoz if you are fighting for reservation then you are playing in the hand of Politicians. Why don't they work on prospects of increasing Jobs and guarantee it to the un-employed? Because it is Politically incorrect to do that.

Today's Slogan - Jaago


'ADHIKAR YA BHIKH'
'NOUKRI YA AARAKSHAN'

'RIGHT OR BEGGING'
'SERVICE OR RESERVATION'


come out of the cluthes of dirty politics and demand our real right and fight for justice. These politicians know this kind of voice will not reach to them if they follow the divide and rule policy which Congress(primarily) and others inherited from British.

Sandeep most madrassas focus on injunctions from the revelation,interpretation of Fiqh etc..
Studying and teaching religious knowledge is an act of worship for which they believe they will be rewarded by God.Thier focus is on the other worldly

Hey 'null'

read the true meaning of islam
Arab National Movement
http://www.hvk.org/articles/0805/82.html
I challenge you to a debate on this

Nice Article sandeep, atleast someone critising UPA.
Most news channels still criticise BJP/NDA/RSS, and mind you they are not in power for last 2 years..
The results of last elections are taken more seriousaly my channel walas and they all assume that NDA lost because people felt NDA is communal, the same impression Left/Cong is creating.
And due to this conclusiong they are going to minority appeasement!
Does the indian govt need new policies?? Frankly if they can implement what announced 2 yrs backs (employment garranty) they will serve india in better way!
But then thats the hard way and no political outlet likes the hard ways now! All of them want short cuts and thats why we are seeing so much of oppsition. We see a mandal like situation being created, and more dangerous situation getting created!
Does congress realy angry at fall of babri? No! they were happy since they knew now they can get more votes, the liberal hindus + muslims!
but the caste politics is coming in their way and post 90s their is already one party which is grabbing muslim votes (samajwadi).
So they have 2 pronged strategy A. OBC reservation B. minority upliftment. Both of these are shirt cuts!!
The whole problem is again things life "clean governace" + development + issues like pollution and related issues are going on backseat.
The media is also happy because on A & B they get masaledar news stories to cover and debate and franky media loves to create heros (sonia) and villains (modi)!
So guys get ready for more polarised senseless political situations created in 2007. I still hope the yound indians dont get into this and believe in doing their job and doing the right things (thats keeping away from this political class). and puttign pressure on local govts to give beeter roads, water, housing etc!!